{"id":144,"date":"2009-07-05T17:44:26","date_gmt":"2009-07-05T16:44:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogjeanmi.danslamarge.com\/2009\/07\/05\/et-vous-qui-dites-vous-que-je-suis\/"},"modified":"2009-07-05T17:47:14","modified_gmt":"2009-07-05T16:47:14","slug":"et-vous-qui-dites-vous-que-je-suis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogjeanmi.danslamarge.com\/?p=144","title":{"rendered":"Et vous qui dites-vous que je suis?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\" \/><meta name=\"ProgId\" content=\"Word.Document\" \/><meta name=\"Generator\" content=\"Microsoft Word 9\" \/><meta name=\"Originator\" content=\"Microsoft Word 9\" \/>\n<link href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/DOCUME%7E1\/jean-mi\/LOCALS%7E1\/Temp\/msoclip1\/01\/clip_filelist.xml\" rel=\"File-List\" \/>\n<link href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/DOCUME%7E1\/jean-mi\/LOCALS%7E1\/Temp\/msoclip1\/01\/clip_editdata.mso\" rel=\"Edit-Time-Data\" \/><!--[if !mso]>\n\n\n<style> v\\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} <\/style>\n\n <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:WordDocument>   <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>   <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>   <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>   <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser\/>  <\/w:WordDocument> <\/xml><![endif]--><\/p>\n<style> <!--  \/* Font Definitions *\/ @font-face \t{font-family:Wingdings; 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color: red\">Matthieu 16\u00a0: 13 \u00b6 J\u00e9sus, arriv\u00e9 sur le territoire de C\u00e9sar\u00e9e de Philippe,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>posa cette question \u00e0 ses disciples: Au dire des gens, qui suis-je, moi, le Fils de l\u2019homme?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">14<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Ils r\u00e9pondirent: Les uns disent Jean-Baptiste; d\u2019autres,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>\u00c9lie; d\u2019autres, J\u00e9r\u00e9mie, ou l\u2019un des proph\u00e8tes.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">15<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Mais vous, leur dit-il, qui dites-vous que je suis?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">16<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Simon Pierre r\u00e9pondit: Tu es le Christ, le Fils du Dieu vivant.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">17<span>\u00a0 <\/span>J\u00e9sus reprit la parole et lui dit: Tu es heureux, Simon,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>fils de Jonas; car ce ne sont pas la chair et le sang qui t\u2019ont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 cela, mais mon P\u00e8re qui est dans les cieux.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">18<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Et moi, je te dis que tu es Pierre, et que sur cette pierre je b\u00e2tirai mon \u00c9glise, et que les portes du s\u00e9jour des morts ne pr\u00e9vaudront pas contre elle.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">19<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Je te donnerai les clefs du royaume des cieux: Ce que tu lieras sur la terre sera li\u00e9 dans les cieux, et ce que tu d\u00e9lieras sur la terre sera d\u00e9li\u00e9 dans les cieux.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">20<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Alors il recommanda s\u00e9v\u00e8rement aux disciples de ne dire \u00e0 personne qu\u2019il \u00e9tait le Christ.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">21 \u00b6 J\u00e9sus commen\u00e7a d\u00e8s lors \u00e0 montrer \u00e0 ses disciples qu\u2019il lui fallait aller \u00e0 J\u00e9rusalem, souffrir beaucoup de la part des anciens, des principaux sacrificateurs et des scribes, \u00eatre mis \u00e0 mort et ressusciter le troisi\u00e8me jour.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">22<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Pierre, le prit \u00e0 part et se mit \u00e0 lui faire des reproches en disant: A Dieu ne plaise, Seigneur! Cela ne t\u2019arrivera pas.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 0cm; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0cm\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">23<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">Mais J\u00e9sus se retourna et dit \u00e0 Pierre: Arri\u00e8re de moi,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Satan! Tu es pour moi un scandale, car tes pens\u00e9es ne sont pas celles de Dieu, mais celles des hommes.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>Marc 8: 27 \u00b6 J\u00e9sus s\u2019en alla, avec ses disciples dans les villages de C\u00e9sar\u00e9e de Philippe, et en chemin, il leur posa cette question:<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Les gens, qui disent-ils que je suis?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">28<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Ils dirent: Jean-Baptiste; d\u2019autres, \u00c9lie; d\u2019autres, l\u2019un des proph\u00e8tes.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">29<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Mais vous, leur demanda-t-il, qui dites-vous que je suis?<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Pierre lui r\u00e9pondit: Tu es le Christ.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">30<span>\u00a0 <\/span>J\u00e9sus leur recommanda s\u00e9v\u00e8rement de ne dire \u00e0 personne ce qui le concernait.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">31<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Il commen\u00e7a alors \u00e0 leur apprendre qu\u2019il fallait que le Fils de l\u2019homme souffre beaucoup, qu\u2019il soit rejet\u00e9 par les anciens, par les principaux sacrificateurs et par les scribes,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>qu\u2019il soit mis \u00e0 mort et qu\u2019il ressuscite trois jours apr\u00e8s.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">32<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Il disait ces paroles ouvertement. Et Pierre le prit \u00e0 part et se mit \u00e0 lui faire des reproches.<span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\"><span> <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\"><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">33<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>Mais J\u00e9sus se retourna, regarda ses disciples, fit des reproches \u00e0 Pierre et lui dit: Arri\u00e8re de moi, Satan, car tes pens\u00e9es ne sont pas celles de Dieu, mais celles des hommes.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">Luc 9\u00a0: <\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">18 \u00b6 Un jour que J\u00e9sus priait \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cart et que ses disciples \u00e9taient avec lui, il leur posa cette question: Les foules, qui disent-elles que je suis?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">19<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Ils r\u00e9pondirent: Jean-Baptiste; d\u2019autres, \u00c9lie; d\u2019autres un des anciens proph\u00e8tes ressuscit\u00e9.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">20<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Mais vous, leur dit-il, qui dites-vous que je suis? Pierre r\u00e9pondit: Le Christ de Dieu.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">21<span>\u00a0 <\/span>J\u00e9sus leur recommanda s\u00e9v\u00e8rement de ne le dire \u00e0 personne.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">22<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Il ajouta qu\u2019il fallait que le Fils de l\u2019homme souffre beaucoup, qu\u2019il soit rejet\u00e9 par les anciens, par les principaux sacrificateurs et par les scribes, qu\u2019il soit mis \u00e0 mort et qu\u2019il ressuscite le troisi\u00e8me jour.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">23<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Puis il dit \u00e0 tous: Si quelqu\u2019un veut venir apr\u00e8s moi,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>qu\u2019il renonce \u00e0 lui-m\u00eame, qu\u2019il se charge chaque jour de sa croix et qu\u2019il me suive.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">24<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Quiconque en effet voudra sauver sa vie la perdra, mais quiconque perdra sa vie \u00e0 cause de moi la sauvera.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">25<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Et que sert-il \u00e0 un homme de gagner le monde entier, s\u2019il se perd ou se ruine lui-m\u00eame?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial; color: red\">26<span>\u00a0 <\/span>En effet quiconque aura honte de moi et de mes paroles, le Fils de l\u2019homme aura honte de lui, quand il viendra dans sa gloire et dans celle du P\u00e8re et des saints anges.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 23.25pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -23.25pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">27<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">Je vous le dis en v\u00e9rit\u00e9, quelques-uns de ceux qui se tiennent ici ne go\u00fbteront point la mort avant d\u2019avoir vu le royaume de Dieu.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>Ces textes<span>\u00a0 <\/span>comportent quatre<span>\u00a0 <\/span>\u00e9l\u00e9ments attirent notre attention\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 54pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">1.<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">le contexte \u00e9vang\u00e9lique<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 54pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">2.<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">la premi\u00e8re question de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 ses disciples<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 54pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">3.<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">la deuxi\u00e8me question de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 ses disciples<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 54pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">4.<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><!--[endif]--><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>la r\u00e9ponse de Pierre<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: center\" align=\"center\"><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 16pt; color: blue\">1 \/ Le contexte de nos textes\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Notons tout d\u2019abord le fait assez rare que ce soit J\u00e9sus qui pose une question \u00e0 ses disciples, alors que dans presque tous les textes \u00e9vang\u00e9liques c\u2019est lui qui est interrog\u00e9.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Ensuite une variante parmi les trois r\u00e9cits attire notre attention. Marc et Matthieu parlent d\u2019un mouvement et d\u2019un lieu, pas Luc.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Matthieu\u00a0:<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0\u2026 arriv\u00e9 sur le territoire de C\u00e9sar\u00e9e de Philippe\u2026\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Marc\u00a0: <\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0J\u00e9sus s\u2019en alla avec ses disciples dans <span>\u00a0<\/span>les villages de C\u00e9sar\u00e9e de Philippe\u2026\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Point de d\u00e9part , la piscine de Bethsa\u00efda , au bord du lac de G\u00e9n\u00e9sareth et remont\u00e9e vers le Nord, environ 30 \u00e0 40 km , \u00e0 parcourir \u00e0 pied. Et Marc dit\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0En chemin\u2026\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Nous sommes dans une zone tr\u00e8s aride o\u00f9 il n\u2019y pas beaucoup d\u2019habitants. 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Luc y ajoute un d\u00e9tail spirituel non n\u00e9gligeable\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0J\u00e9sus priait\u00a0\u00bb. Ces question \u00e0 poser ne sont pas anecdotiques, anodines, ne rel\u00e8vent pas des circonstances du r\u00e9cit. J\u00e9sus a attendu un moment pr\u00e9cis de son minist\u00e8re, un temps particulier et un lieu appropri\u00e9.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Toutes les interrogations ne sont pas bonnes \u00e0 poser tout le temps.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: center\" align=\"center\"><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 16pt; color: blue\">2\/ La premi\u00e8re question de J\u00e9sus\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Elle est comme le premi\u00e8re \u00e9tage de la fus\u00e9e\u00a0; elle conditionne la suite. Marc et<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Matthieu nous disent\u00a0: <\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0Au dire des gens, qui suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> ( c\u2019est le mot \u00ab\u00a0hommes, \u00ab\u00a0humains\u00a0\u00bb qui est employ\u00e9 dans le texte original)<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Luc dit\u00a0: <\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0Au dire des foules, qui suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">J\u00e9sus veut savoir de la bouche de ses disciples ce que les t\u00e9moins anonymes (hommes, gens , foules) de son minist\u00e8re pensent de lui. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Il y a l\u00e0 une diff\u00e9rence\u00a0: c\u2019est l\u2019avis des humains, des hominid\u00e9s pourrait-on dire, donc d\u2019une race terrestre, une foule, soit quelque chose d\u2019anonyme, de banalis\u00e9.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Les disciples r\u00e9pondent trois choses distinctes qui sont la pens\u00e9e commune de la foule. L\u00e0, ils parlent tous. La foule a aussi interpell\u00e9 H\u00e9rode comme le montre le texte de Marc 6\u00a0;<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-indent: -18pt\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; color: red\">4 \u00b6 Le roi H\u00e9rode l\u2019apprit; en effet le nom de J\u00e9sus devenait c\u00e9l\u00e8bre et l\u2019on disait: Jean-Baptiste est ressuscit\u00e9 d\u2019entre les morts et c\u2019est pour cela qu\u2019il a le pouvoir de faire des miracles.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-indent: -18pt\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; color: red\">15<span>\u00a0 <\/span>D\u2019autres disaient: C\u2019est \u00c9lie; et d\u2019autres disaient: C\u2019est un proph\u00e8te comme l\u2019un des proph\u00e8tes.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-indent: -18pt\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; color: red\">16<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Mais H\u00e9rode en apprenant cela disait: Ce Jean que j\u2019ai fait d\u00e9capiter, c\u2019est lui qui est ressuscit\u00e9.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-indent: -18pt\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial; color: black\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><span>\u00a0<\/span>Reprenons les trois personnages qui sont \u00e9voqu\u00e9s\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Jean le Baptiste\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> c\u2019est un contemporain, donc le plus connu. Or Jean a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9capit\u00e9 sur ordre d\u2019H\u00e9rode le t\u00e9trarque justement (voir le r\u00e9cit de cette ex\u00e9cution dans la suite de Marc 6). Il est toujours rassurant de se r\u00e9f\u00e9rer \u00e0 du connu, \u00e0 du r\u00e9el et de l\u2019explicable. Or, il y a le d\u00e9licat probl\u00e8me des miracles\u00a0: Jean ne gu\u00e9rissait pas. Ce serait donc sa r\u00e9surrection qui lui aurait donn\u00e9 le pouvoir d\u2019accomplir des miracles.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Elie\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> il reste le proph\u00e8te le plus grand et le plus puissant, celui qui a accompli de nombreux prodiges (voir 1 Rois 17 jusqu\u2019\u00e0 2 Rois 2\u00a0:11) et n\u2019a pas connu la mort. Toute r\u00e9f\u00e9rence au surnaturel passe donc par lui. La foule identifie donc J\u00e9sus \u00e0 ce qui existe de plus puissant en Isra\u00ebl.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Un proph\u00e8te parmi les proph\u00e8tes\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> (Mrc 6\u00a0:15) ou \u00ab\u00a0Un des anciens proph\u00e8tes qui s\u2019est relev\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb (Luc 9\u00a0:19). Ici se trouve la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence la plus floue et aussi la plus faible en puissance des trois. J\u00e9sus est un parmi d\u2019autres dans cette interpr\u00e9tation.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Ce qui est frappant dans ces trois r\u00e9ponses, c\u2019est qu\u2019\u00e0 chaque fois la mort est vaincue. Le caract\u00e8re unique de J\u00e9sus est le fait que la mort ne l\u2019a pas gard\u00e9. En Isra\u00ebl \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque, cette croyance ne pose pas probl\u00e8me\u00a0; le peuple vit avec le surnaturel de Dieu dans les r\u00e9cits des Livres bibliques.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Aujourd\u2019hui posons la question \u00e0 notre foule\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Qui dit-on qu\u2019est J\u00e9sus\u00a0? \u00ab\u00a0<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Nous aurons des r\u00e9ponses \u00e9galement variables\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">L\u2019ath\u00e9e militant\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> pour les plus irr\u00e9ductibles, J\u00e9sus est une invention pure et simple des Evang\u00e9listes et de l\u2019Eglise.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">La masse de nos contemporains\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> J\u00e9sus est un sage, dans la lign\u00e9e de Socrate, Bouddha ou Confucius.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 18pt; text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -18pt\"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol\">\u00b7<span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><!--[endif]--><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Les \u00e9lites les plus cultiv\u00e9es\u00a0:<\/span><\/u><\/strong><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"> elles le voient comme un penseur, un philosophe (\u00ab\u00a0Le Christ philosophe\u00a0\u00bb de C. Lenoir) ou un r\u00e9volutionnaire.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Presque tous buteront sur l\u2019incroyable\u00a0: le rapport de J\u00e9sus \u00e0 la mort et sa r\u00e9surrection. Nous voyons bien que le contexte historique et culturel est capital pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 cette question. Nos soci\u00e9t\u00e9s occidentales ont pos\u00e9 la raison en r\u00e8gle absolue. Or la r\u00e9surrection (et la naissance de J\u00e9sus) ne sont ni raisonnables ni rationnelles. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">D\u2019autres soci\u00e9t\u00e9s contemporaines, comme celles d\u2019Afrique ou du Grand Nord auraient un autre accueil, plus spiritualiste.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Quand J\u00e9sus pose cette question, il est clair qu\u2019il conna\u00eet la r\u00e9ponse. Ce qui l\u2019int\u00e9resse, me semble-t-il, c\u2019est la r\u00e9ponse des disciples, fils du peuple, les plus aptes \u00e0 recueillir ces impressions.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: center\" align=\"center\"><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 16pt; color: blue\">3\/ La deuxi\u00e8me question de J\u00e9sus\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">c\u2019est le but de cet entretien. La premi\u00e8re question ne sert qu\u2019\u00e0 amener celle-ci.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">\u00ab\u00a0Et pour vous, qui suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Par cette question, J\u00e9sus veut savoir ce que ceux qui marchent avec lui ont saisi. La lecture du d\u00e9but des Evangiles ne laisse pas beaucoup de doute\u00a0: les disciples ont du mal \u00e0 comprendre. D\u2019abord parce qu\u2019ils ne sont pas vers\u00e9s dans les Ecritures, ce sont des travailleurs manuels, des hommes simples. Ensuite parce qu\u2019ils sont le produit de la religion juive et de sa vision messianique particuli\u00e8re. Et pourtant, ils le suivent\u00a0!\u2026<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Nous les trouvons souvent perplexes, parlant entre eux de leurs incompr\u00e9hensions\u2026Ils ont cependant fait un acte de foi initial en le suivant, en laissant leurs barques et leurs m\u00e9tiers\u2026<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Pour suivre J\u00e9sus, il n\u2019est pas demand\u00e9 de tout comprendre. Il est demand\u00e9 de se mettre en marche \u00e0 son appel. Mais quand les disciples ont v\u00e9cu plusieurs mois aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de J\u00e9sus, sa question est l\u00e9gitime. Elle a un sens pr\u00e9cis\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0La foule me voit comme Jean, Elie ou un quelconque proph\u00e8te, mais vous, mes amis, mes fid\u00e8les qui mangez , dormez, mangez avec moi, vous, que pouvez-vous dire aujourd\u2019hui, dans cet endroit tranquille o\u00f9 aucun espion de la synagogue ou des Romains ne risque de vous d\u00e9noncer\u00a0? Qu\u2019avez-vous compris\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">La question d\u2019adresse bien s\u00fbr \u00e0 nous. Le culte est cet endroit tranquille, retir\u00e9 de la foule quotidienne. Quelque soit notre temps de march\u00e9 aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de J\u00e9sus, il nous adresse la question\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">\u00ab\u00a0Et pour toi, qui suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">\u00ab\u00a0Et pour vous, Eglise de Pessac, qui suis-je\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: center\" align=\"center\"><strong><u><span style=\"font-size: 16pt; color: blue\">4\/ La r\u00e9ponse\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">En fait comme dans toute d\u00e9marche juive, la r\u00e9ponse importe moins que la question. Alors qu\u2019en Occident, en France, nous ne pr\u00eatons souvent pas beaucoup attention aux questions, ce que nous aimons, ce sont les r\u00e9ponses.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Voici deux citations tir\u00e9s de deux livres du Rabbin Marc-Alain Ouaknin, par ailleurs docteur en philosophie.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0La question surgit pour d\u00e9ranger l\u2019\u00eatre dans sa qui\u00e9tude, dans l\u2019\u00e9vidence du \u00ab\u00a0tout est normal\u00a0\u00bb, dans le fait de consid\u00e9rer que \u00ab\u00a0tout est r\u00e9gl\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">tir\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0C\u2019est pour cela qu\u2019on aime les libellules\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0Or toute suspension de jugement, m\u00eame et surtout celle de pr\u00e9jug\u00e9s, a, du point de vue logique, la structure d\u2019une question. L\u2019essence de la question est d\u2019ouvrir et de laisser ouverte des possibilit\u00e9s. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">L\u2019ouverture de ce qui est demand\u00e9 r\u00e9side dans le caract\u00e8re non fix\u00e9 de la r\u00e9ponse. La chose demand\u00e9e doit rester en suspens.\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Tir\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0Le livre br\u00fbl\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">J\u00e9sus pose une question de Juif \u00e0 d\u2019autres Juifs, donc des gens habitu\u00e9s \u00e0 ce mode de pens\u00e9e, qui est tout en \u00ab\u00a0questions-r\u00e9ponses\u00a0\u00bb, appel\u00e9e la Mahloquet. La question n\u2019est pas banale, elle ne porte pas sur le temple, le culte, la loi\u2026 Elle porte sur la personne-m\u00eame de celui qui questionne. Cette question est donc redoutable, car elle oblige \u00e0 un engagement vis-\u00e0-vis de celui qui la pose. Il y a douze disciples. Onze se taisent. Un seul parle, Pierre.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Pourquoi les onze se taisent-ils\u00a0? N\u2019ont-ils rien \u00e0 r\u00e9pondre\u00a0? Ne savent-ils pas ou ne veulent-ils pas r\u00e9pondre\u00a0? Pierre seul r\u00e9pond. Sa r\u00e9ponse est pr\u00e9cise et tr\u00e8s juive aussi\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Le Christ de Dieu\u00a0\u00bb, ce qui veut dire le \u00ab\u00a0messie\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0celui qui a re\u00e7u l\u2019onction\u00a0\u00bb. Le texte de Matthieu 16\u00a0:16 dit\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0Toi, tu es le Christ, le Fils du Dieu vivant\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">et J\u00e9sus commente la r\u00e9ponse du seul Pierre\u00a0:<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; color: red\">\u00ab\u00a0Heureux es-tu, Simon, fils de Jonas\u00a0; car ce ne sont pas la chair et le sang qui t\u2019ont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 cela, mais mon P\u00e8re qui est dans les Cieux\u00a0!\u00a0\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Pierre ne pouvait r\u00e9pondre par sa naissance ou son \u00e9ducation. Ce qu\u2019il dit lui a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 par Dieu, par la seul gr\u00e2ce. Il n\u2019y a que cette courte r\u00e9ponse, absolue.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Pierre a-t-il parl\u00e9 au nom de tous\u00a0? Est-ce une r\u00e9ponse collective, une conviction partag\u00e9e\u00a0? Nous n\u2019en savons rien.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">En fait, ici, seule la question est importante. Elle demeure toujours d\u2019actualit\u00e9.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">La r\u00e9ponse absolue est en Dieu. Nous pouvons la recevoir par r\u00e9v\u00e9lation, par la foi. Notre intelligence rationnelle ne nous est d\u2019aucun secours pour saisir cela.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">La r\u00e9ponse relative est apport\u00e9e au quotidien. C\u2019est chaque jour que cette question doit nous \u00eatre pos\u00e9e. La r\u00e9ponse d\u2019aujourd\u2019hui n\u2019est pas celle de l\u2019an pass\u00e9, ni celle d\u2019il y a dix ans.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->\u00a0<!--[endif]--><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoBodyText\" style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">R\u00e9p\u00e9ter cette question, c\u2019est rester ouvert, en marche avec J\u00e9sus. 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